[OE-core] [PATCH] systemd: decreasing default RLIMIT_NOFILE on qemu bsp
Mark Hatle
mark.hatle at windriver.com
Tue Aug 20 13:46:53 UTC 2019
On 8/19/19 9:55 AM, richard.purdie at linuxfoundation.org wrote:
> On Mon, 2019-08-19 at 16:01 +0200, Alexander Kanavin wrote:
>> Should the limit be simply raised? The 256M setup is crumbling on
>> several fronts (runtime tests, modernisation of X, various non-x86
>> qemu targets). Adding per-image/target exceptions, custom non-
>> upstreamable patches, or sticking to deprecated configurations isn't
>> the right thing to do, I think.
>
> What kind of devices/uses are we meant to be targeting?
>
> I believe OE is suited to optimised used cases where constraints on
> size and performance are quite likely and supported.
>
> This is *exactly* the kind of thing we should be exploring and
> supporting. systemd is not designed for some of the systems we target.
> Changing some of its configuration shouldn't be a surprise.
>
> Having NFS taking up half the available memory doesn't make sense,
> particularly when the sysvinit limits have worked for us for years. I
> therefore appreciate Hongxu figuring out what the difference was and I
> believe we should change this to something more suited for our target
> audience, unless someone can explain why this is a bad idea.
>
> Similarly, forcing everyone to full GL stacks under qemu simply is not
> acceptable. For example I might have a single container type image
> which I want to load/test under qemu. Forcing such usage to require
> 512MB memory for what could be a headless system also isn't right and
> will just frustrate users. Users need to be able to access headless or
> 2D configurations of it.
Looking at what my customers are doing, I completely agree. I look at the
design criteria for my customer's devices and I'm seeing 256MB as -very- common.
More happens, but it's rare still. (But I have some customers with GB of ram,
but that is usually to support their application, but the base system!)
(Note, I do have customers -with- graphics requirements [X11] that are in the
128/256 MB ram ranges. In most cases OpenGL is something they would like, but I
don't believe it's a hard requirement for them.)
I do still have many customers with 128 MB of ram requirements. So it's
important for us to set a reasonable baseline (256MB). So going under this
requires 'work', but I think that is acceptable.
--Mark
> I'm sorry I haven't been as active with general patch review recently
> as I'd like. I did say that trying to change runqueue would distract me
> from the usual day to day running of the project. We need to sort this
> problem out but not the way you keep trying to.
>
> Where images have specific memory needs, we should increase the
> headroom for those images. Images with SDK tools, or stap make sense to
> have more memory.
>
> I'd even possibly accept a case for higher memory defaults for graphics
> images when GL is enabled. Pushing the default qemu memory size to
> 512MB everywhere is wrong though and sends out the wrong message for
> the project.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Richard
>
>
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