Hosting BSP layers on oe.org?

Koen Kooi koen at dominion.thruhere.net
Tue Mar 8 14:27:36 UTC 2011


Op 8 mrt 2011, om 15:07 heeft Philip Balister het volgende geschreven:

> On 03/08/2011 03:12 AM, Koen Kooi wrote:
>> 
>> Op 5 mrt 2011, om 01:10 heeft Philip Balister het volgende geschreven:
>> 
>>> On 03/04/2011 01:30 PM, Tom Rini wrote:
>>>> On 03/04/2011 10:10 AM, Koen Kooi wrote:
>>>>> CC: ing the board, although I know Philip is playing in the snow next
>>>>> week.
>>> 
>>> He has wifi though :) Don't expect great thoughts from me unless the snow gets crappy.
>>> 
>>> I need to think through the BSP issue. I think you guys have touched on the key issues. There is also the issue of control of BSP's. (ie commit access)
>> 
>> Can I get an ETA on when the board will have a decision? I don't like being forced to sit on my hands.
> 
> At least one board member is on vacation (for real).

That leaves 2 others...

> I should have asked earlier, what is the time frame for figuring this out? In my mind it wouldn't become critical until we had substantial progress on oe-core. And until we have a real release, hosting things on services like github should allow progress on actual work.

I'm working on the internal TI roadmap for using OE-core and we want to host our "community" layers on OE.org to show that those layers aren't owned, but maintained by TI. The evil closed stuff layer will remain on a TI server.

I know I can host stuff on github (it's on gitorious already), but I want a clear statement from the board what they think of OE hosted BSPs. I also know that the board only has one useful member currently (Philip), but can I get at least an estimate on how long a decision is going to take? If it's more than a week I need to make some different arrangements for the next TI meeting on friday.

regards,

Koen

> 
> Philip
> 
>> 
>> 
>>> 
>>> As OE, we are not dogmatic about being open source purists, so there is room to just make things work in order maximize people ease of using OE.
>>> 
>>> Philip
>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Op 4 mrt 2011, om 17:36 heeft Mark Hatle het volgende geschreven:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 3/4/11 10:30 AM, Koen Kooi wrote:
>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I'm not sure if this a pure TSC issue, but really like your input on
>>>>>>> this.
>>>>>>> <TI hat on>  I would like to host the TI BSP layer(s) on oe.org as
>>>>>>> well as the
>>>>>>> mailinglist(s) and patchwork config(s) to encourage the wider
>>>>>>> community to
>>>>>>> participate. My question is "Do we want that" and if so, "Do we want to
>>>>>>> encourage it?".<TI hat off>
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> It would be really nice if we can get people (e.g. silicon vendors,
>>>>>>> OEM,
>>>>>>> community developers) to do their OE stuff in the open and host them on
>>>>>>> oe.org. What's your opinion on this?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Speaking for my involvement in Yocto for a small bit. This was one of
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> things that we had planned early to enable in Yocto. We were not sure
>>>>>> that
>>>>>> purely open source groups such as OE would allow for BSP layers to be
>>>>>> hosted
>>>>>> from their site or not. (Especially when you factor in many BSPs require
>>>>>> proprietary drivers of some type to be fully functional...)
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> <back to my TSC role>  I would certainly encourage BSP layers under
>>>>>> the umbrella
>>>>>> of Open Embedded. But I have a feeling this is one of the questions
>>>>>> we need to
>>>>>> ask the board about. They're the ones that are going to give us
>>>>>> guidance on
>>>>>> what rules (proprietary or not) as well as if they think it's
>>>>>> appropriate. -- if
>>>>>> they do, we can certainly help guide this within OE.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> regards,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Koen
>>>> 
>>>> With my TSC hat on, I also see this as a board issue, not a TSC issue.
>>>> 
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